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- From: wblock@rapidnet.com (Warren Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: A3000 SCSI questions
- Date: 22 Jan 1996 15:32:43 GMT
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- Jeff Grimmett (jgrimm@sdd.hp.com) wrote:
- : wblock@rapidnet.com (Warren Block) wrote:
-
- : >First point: there is only one chain here. It has both internal and
- : >external parts, but there is only one.
-
- : NOT in an A3000. At least, not according to CBM back when I bought mine.
- : They issued a service bulletin to thier Gold Service techs that stated
- : explicitly that for purposes of termination, there existed TWO chains,
- : one internal and one external.
-
- : I realize that this does not make sense from a SCSI point of view, but
- : that is exactly what they said, and guess what -- it works.
-
- Unless you have two controllers, you only have one SCSI bus, and the SCSI
- spec is very clear on termination and the other rules (a couple of which
- C= broke on the A3000). As for C=, well, they went out of business due to
- stupidity... but I suspect that the bulletin was referring to the lack of
- motherboard termination in most A3000s, and terminating one end of the
- internal and external "chains". This results in proper termination if you
- have both internal and external devices, or improper (but possibly
- working) termination if you have only internal or only external devices.
-
- Some A3000s will work fine with non-spec SCSI setups. That doesn't mean
- that the settings are proper, it just means that there is a tolerance
- range in which some machines will still work. In such situations, many
- people experience random "read errors" and believe that they are just a
- part of normal operation. The more complex a SCSI bus becomes, the more
- critical it is to follow the spec. If you follow it from the start,
- adding SCSI devices or changing configurations is much easier and far
- more reliable.
-
- Finally, the short list of common A3000 SCSI problems:
-
- 1. The DB25. Hopefully this will come back to haunt Steve Jobs forever.
- 2. The motherboard terminators are usually missing, and it's difficult
- to find the exact replacements, because (like the 2091) they are of
- two different sizes.
- 3. Terminator power to the external DB25 (see #1) is often nonexistent
- due to a manfacturing flaw. This can be corrected.
- 4. The revision 04 Western Digital SCSI chip has trouble with some SCSI
- devices. Replacing it with a revision 08 may be necessary.
-
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